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  • Dave 7:43 pm on April 6, 2008 Permalink
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    Infrared FAQ 

    Crookstone Hill

    Most of what I know about infrared photography I found out after trying things. I had read some tips on various web sites and a lot of that was useful, but when it came down to it, it was only the practical experience of taking the photos, playing with camera settings and different methods of editing that eventually led me to a way of doing things.

    Everyone has their own way and will no doubt vary slightly or a lot from what I’ll describe below – I don’t consistently follow a set of rules or instructions, I eventually end up editing each photo in it’s own way, but generally speaking, this is what happens.

    I’ve been sent so many messages through this web site or via Flickr asking questions about infrared. Every time I end up writing quite long replies and then thinking I really ought to write this down somewhere for when the next person asks – and up until now I never did.

    Normally, the advice comes down to two things. If you want that blue sky look, get a filter that cuts of at 720nm like a Hoya R72, and regardless, setting white balance in camera makes the world of difference.

    TV Remote IR TestCan I take infrared photos with my digital camera?

    The easiest way of testing if your digital camera can see infrared or not, is to pick up a remote control device and take a photo of the transmitter end as you’re pressing one of the buttons down. If you can see the infrared transmitter light up, then you’re in business.

    What kind of filter do I need?

    Since 2005 I’ve used a Hoya R72 filter. I got that particular filter because it was easy to get hold of and was mentioned as being a good one on various web sites I read at the time. This filter works for me, but there are other filters out there and the results you get will very along with them. The infrared filter actually filters out normal visible light. When you hold one up to look at, it seems to be jet black and you can’t see through it. The R72 allows wavelengths of 720nm and up through it. Infrared has wavelengths between 750nm and 1mm. That means that you’re letting in some red light as well as the infrared light. Is that a bad thing? Well, it depends. If you want to make false colour infrared images with what look like blue skies, then no. If you’re only interested in making black and white images, then a filter that cuts of above the visible range may be better for you. I’m intending to get another filter with different characteristics this year so that I can do proper comparisons. Using infrared you can see a lot more on hazy days and I suspect that a filter that cuts out more visible light will be better at cutting through that haze.

    Why do my exposures need to be so long?

    Digital cameras normally block some infrared because it tends to make normal light images look a bit crap. When you did your test to see if your camera could see infrared, what you’re actually seeing is the infrared that is left after your camera has tried to filter it out. In practice, with a black filter on the front of your camera, you’re exposure is likely to be around 1 second on a sunny day. This varies from camera to camera though so the best way is to experiment with what you’ve got until you get images you’re happy with. I’ve tried infrared photography on 3 different Canon Ixus cameras, my Nikon D50, a modified Fuji S5600 and a Ricoh GX100 – all of them behave differently.

    So, given that exposures will be long, using things like monopods, tripods or Gorillapods is a must. Using the timer so that you’ve not moving the camera is a good move too.

    Why do you use that silly looking compact camera when you could use your DSLR?

    The short answer: laziness. There are pros and cons for using each. This first image was taken with a compact:

    irixus

    Taken on a different day but more or less in the same place with a DSLR:

    irnikon

    Plus points for the DSLR: Image quality

    Minus points for the DSLR: Really fussy and hard to use. You can’t see what you’re doing through the viewfinder because it’s blacked out by the filter. So I had to compose the shot without the filter in place, focus, put the filter on and then take the shot. In theory I should have adjusted the focus manually after the filter went on as well. This is time consuming.

    Plus points for compacts: You can see what you’re composing with the LCD screen

    Minus points: Images not as good as DSLR.

    I think if I’m honest, that given the quality increase in the DLSR images, it’s worth the effort if you’ve got the patience. I do wonder if newer DSLR’s with live preview make this easier.

    Having compared these two options I use a third option though…

    Converted camera?

    Above was a section explaining why the exposures need to be so long. That isn’t so much of a problem if you want to take static photos, but try and get photos of people moving and you end up with a blurred mess.

    The reason for that long exposure is the built in infrared blocking. A converted camera simply has that blocking screen removed or replaced with something that doesn’t block infrared. The end result of that is exposure times that are almost back to using a normal colour digital camera. This is great for people shots.

    I use a converted camera myself but I still use my other cameras sometimes. Those long exposures are great when you actually want that blur – like moving clouds on a windy day.

    I’ve taken some pictures and they look red or purple

    In all probability, your camera will be set to auto-white balance. Because you’ve got a black filter on the front of it, it’s interpretation of what is white isn’t going to be much good. There are two ways around this: 1. Using RAW files and altering it when you process your image 2. Set a custom white balance in camera before taking your shots.

    Whichever way you choose to do it, it came make quite a lot of difference to the image you end up with. The red image below is one of mine from a few years ago. The white balance was set to ‘Tungsten’. That seems stupid on the face of it, but at the time I thought that rather than having auto white balance, if I had a fixed one then at least I’d know it was the same in all of the images I took and make correcting the images easier. Well, that was true, but it’s not as good as just making sure it’s right in the first place.

    White Edge (Before)

    How do I get that blue sky effect?

    irchannelmixer You use your editing software to swap the red and blue channels. You usually have a channel mixer somewhere, and in
    that you can say make red
    blue and make blue red.

    You can see in the screen shot that I’m changing the red channel and setting red to 0% and blue to 100%.

    I’d then open the blue channel and set that to 100% red and 0% blue.

    At that point your image probably won’t look how you’d like, but then you’re down to personal choice and how you tweak it to make it look nice. Typically I might have to use a curves adjustment layer to alter the white point if something that I think should look white isn’t white. This is required less if you set custom white balances when shooting though.

    White Edge (After)

    What about Black and White infrared images?

    By far the easiest way it to just desaturate the image. I normally have to boost the contrast a little and auto-contrast normally works fine.

    whiteedgeafterbw

    This post will be updated and corrected as needed

     
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  • Dave 2:15 pm on July 31, 2007 Permalink
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    Infrared Fisheye 

    Curbar Edge

    Curbar

    After the prolonged period of bad weather and another Saturday spent waiting for an engineer to arrive to fix my long standing broadband problem, I really needed to get outdoors. Saturday had some really nice weather which was hugely welcome.

    I headed out to the Peak District and to one of the nearest bits to me, and a tourist honeypot, Curbar Edge. I didn’t get there until after 4PM due to the BT Engineer not leaving until 3PM and by that time it wasn’t that busy up there so I was able to take my time, wander around and take photos. I was carrying my tripod around to take some shots and I was very impressed that despite the wind up there it was solid as a rock and didn’t move or vibrate at all.

    Recently, I rediscovered my old fish-eye lens which is really something of a novelty item and not very good quality, but from time to time I dust it off and take a few shots. [ Fisheye set ]. The two photos above were taken using the little Canon Ixus with the fisheye attached along with a Hoya R72 filter. Neither of the images are technically brilliant, but I do like how they look which is probably the most important thing.

    As much fun as a fisheye lens is, a proper good quality one is quite some way down my photographic wish list – pending a lottery win anyway ;)

    Finally, as a bonus, there is a completely different photo of mine on show to help celebrate the 2nd birthday of the Shifting Pixel blog. Further guest photographers (all 9rules members I think) will appear in posts during the week, but mine appeared today and can be seen here. Have a good poke around while you’re there if you’re not familiar with the site.

     
    • rick harrison 8:54 pm on July 31, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Hey sorry i couldnt make it, really fancied a day in the peaks too :-/
      Looks like you got some good shots, and i really like the shifting pixels image you did!

    • Cas 9:08 pm on July 31, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      I don’t care you don’t consider them ‘technically brilliant’ – the first one especially is just breathtaking. I’m not sure what it is, but I keep coming back to it, staring, and each time I do I see something different and have a different story in my head.

      Perfect :)

  • Dave 9:02 pm on July 4, 2007 Permalink
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    A freak period of sunshine enables infrared photo shock 

    Sherwood "I'm getting better" Shade

    It seems like it’s been raining for weeks and weeks – I’ve lost track of when the weather here started it’s downward turn, but I’ve had enough of it. At the weekend I went for a walk locally in Sherwood Forest and there were a few warm sunny spells and one or two quite heavy showers. The sunny periods did give me a chance to take some infrared shots. The shot in the middle might give you the impression that the weather was quite nice – well, it was for a few minutes while I took that shot – but it seemed to be changing pretty quickly.

    As annoying as the rain is, it is just annoying and nothing worse. I know people who have been affected by flooding in Nottinghamshire and Sheffield. It has been fascinating following the events through postings and photos in the Sheffield Flickr Group. Events like that don’t happen often so the photos are showing things that are rare, but you also have to think what it actually means when you see a photo of a street with water half way up the ground floor – every home contains real people affected by this. The effects of it will last for months and months.

    One of the images from the Sheffield flood related photos that I found odd to look at was this one by outallnight of the M1 which was closed. I have never seen it looking anything like this before…

     
    • Gary H 3:58 pm on July 6, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      I simply must get an infrared filter. I love the shots. RE the rain, sorry it’s been so much for you over there. In Northern California we’re starting a “Moderate Drought”, so I wish I would see some rain. In all seriousness, flooding is devastating and I hope it passes soon.

  • Dave 5:36 pm on May 25, 2007 Permalink
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    Infrared modified S5600 – Two weeks later 

    A runner and his dog

    I posted a few weeks ago about the modified Fuji Finepix S5600 – modified so that it could take infrared shots without the usual hindrance of an internal infrared blocking hot-mirror.

    When I got the camera, it coincided with the start of some really grey dull weather. Traditionally, infrared photography works best when the sun’s out, and out of all of my old infrared shots taken with the unmodified Canon Ixus, my favourites were all taken on warm sunny days when there was plenty of infrared light being kicked out by the sun.

    I started using this camera regardless of the weather and was amazed at how infrared sensitive it was. I did get some lovely shots despite the weather, but when the sun came out I think the photos got even better. The photos above are a selection of photographs I’ve taken with the camera over the last two weeks.

    I have used SmartSetr to create a Flickr set which will stay up to date and contain all of the photos I take with this camera: Fuji Finepix S5600 Infrared Flickr Set – it’s sorted in decreasing order of interestingness so you should see the good stuff first if you watch the slide show!

     
    • Dennis 9:30 pm on May 25, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Excellent stuff!

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    • Esteban 9:13 pm on June 28, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      I’m enjoying your photos. I’ve been looking at the irdigi website and can’t make up my mind whether to have a camera converted to the vis+IR spectrum or a conversion to IR only (which means you have to decide which filter to specify). Is your S5600 converted to be IR only or full spectrum? What is the IR filter; 720 nm or ?

      Your help appreciated.

      Thankyou

    • publicenergy 10:27 pm on June 28, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      Esteban, mine is a full spectrum camera, but I only use it for infrared anyway, so the IR only one would have done really.

      I personally use a Hoya R72 filter, just because I had one that fit and I used one before – I keep intending to experiment with other filters, but I’ve just not got around to it!

  • Dave 10:14 pm on May 18, 2007 Permalink
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    Some infrared giving sunlight at last 

    Sherwood Heath

    Clumber

    Top: Sherwood Heath
    Bottom: Clumber Park

    Both photos taken with the modified Fuji Finepix S5600.

    Using a different camera for infrared photos is like starting again from scratch – I think I’ll be going through the learning process, finding out what works and what doesn’t. It’s very early days with this, but I think the images show promise for what is possible.

     
    • Dennis 12:53 am on May 19, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Love the IR…..I need to try this but it will be a PS conversion.

  • Dave 10:10 pm on May 15, 2007 Permalink
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    Modified Infrared Fuji Finepix S5600 

    Going home

    Update: Also see the photos I got after two weeks when the sun eventually came out! – Two weeks later

    Since 2005, I have used a Canon Ixus (well three different versions of that due to ‘little accidents’) along with a Hoya R72 filter to take infrared photographs. Digital cameras tend to block infrared because it interferes with normal shots so they employ an internal filter to block it. These vary quite considerably. In the Ixus cameras, there is still enough infrared light making it past this filter to be able to get a shot using just infrared light and blocking out the normal light that we see. A long exposure is needed in order to get enough infrared light inside the camera and past the infrared blocking filter.

    So, for nearly three years I have been using this set-up. When I’m taking infrared shots, I started using fences and rocks to put the camera on to keep it steady while the camera took a shot with an exposure of around a second on sunny days and up to 15 seconds (the maximum on the Ixus) on less than sunny days. Resting the camera on found objects was severely limiting though and I soon got a monopod which opened up my options a lot. In more recent times I’ve been using a Gorillapod which I think has really made me infrared shots better because I can get it in to all sorts of places to keep the camera still for these long exposure shots. Of course, I could just use a traditional tripod, but where’s the fun in that! I do have a tripod but I hardly ever use it – it slows me down too much, where as the Gorillapod is practically instant.

    FishermanAnyway, these long exposures have always been part of the fun and challenge of getting a good infrared shot. It is possible though, to have a camera modified by having the infrared blocking filter taken out giving the infrared light a direct route straight to the sensor. That means that instead of needing long exposures because of the limited amount of infrared making it inside the camera, suddenly you have loads of it and your exposure times go down dramatically – to the point where you can take infrared shots handheld with very fast shutter speeds. So, infrared shots of moving objects becomes possible.

    A friend I met through Flickr, tricky, also takes infrared photos and on multiple occasions the topic of modified cameras has come up. I was trying to resist the temptation, figuring that I quite liked the challenge of the way I did them at the moment and a modified camera might make it too easy. Then I saw an auction on Ebay for a modified Nikon Coolpix 4800 and there were some very impressive infrared photos used as examples of what it could do. One of these photos showed a dolphin in mid-jump, going through a hoop. I forwarded the Ebay link to tricky who blamed me for putting temptation his way, I decided I couldn’t really justify spending the money and tricky crumbled and bought it. So he’s just getting used to it and is building up an already impressive set of photos with it.

    Rick being used to demonstrate that he's not obscured by a jet black R72 filterLater I discovered a link to another modified camera on Ebay. They had been a rare occurrence and I was surprised to see another one so soon. This time it was being sold from a guy in Ireland who was buying new Fuji Finepix S5600 cameras and removing the infrared blocking filter, and then selling the resulting camera. This looked like a bargain to me! I asked the seller about what kind of shutter speeds he was getting with the example shots and he directed me to a page he had created showing some examples of what the camera could do. So, I bought it.

    You can see what he has for sale on Ebay here. He was one of the most helpful sellers I’ve encountered by the way. He even sent me the removed component in a little tub which was a nice touch!

    In an odd coincidence, my camera arrived the same day as tricky’s Nikon. This also coincided with the end of the sunny spell and the start of lots of quite miserable weather. Infrared is always best when it’s sunny and I have jet to have a day out in good weather with the camera. However, while I’ve been using it in less than ideal conditions, I have been very impressed with it. It’s so sensitive that I can take photos indoors – artificial lights seem to kick out enough infrared to get a good photo, and even in dull overcast weather, I can take hand held shots.

    Nuncargate

    So, after the sun decides to come back out, and I get used this camera, I’ll be posting some of the results. I’ve interspersed this post with some of the first test shots I’ve done, but I think I need a good few days out in the sun to experiment and learn how to get the best out of the camera.

    Update: Also see the photos I got after two weeks when the sun eventually came out! – Two weeks later

     
    • premiump 6:36 am on May 16, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      I’m really looking forward to your new infrared stuff … my desktop wallpaper will never tire of your efforts :)

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    • ito 8:10 am on July 10, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Excuse me sir.
      Can you tell me how to remove the hot mirror in the S5600 ?
      Thank you

    • publicenergy 6:18 pm on July 10, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      I didn’t do it myself – I bought it pre-modified from http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/milapravda“ rel=”nofollow”>here.

    • Daz 3:22 pm on July 19, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      I just found your blog via flickr – good work :) Your IR photos have always impressed me. I’ve been doing random IR sometimes, but am not patient enough to set it all up all the time. I may get one of the 5600s you mention here :)

    • publicenergy 5:45 pm on July 19, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Thanks for the comment. If you’re tempted by one of those modified S5600’s, I can’t recommend Mila Pravda the Ebay Seller enough. He was very helpful when I bought mine.

      As for the patience thing, before I got a modified camera, I used to carry around my little Canon Ixus perched on top of a Gorillapod SLR with the infrared filter attached as well as my main camera – I tried doing infrared with my DSLR and although the camera is better, it was just easier, quicker and far more convenient to have a camera set up ready to go for it – especially with a live preview on the LCD.

      Also, am I right in thinking that you run the http://www.derelicte.co.uk/“ rel=”nofollow”>Derelicte site? I think I discovered than when you had some photos of the old colliery at Annesley – which is very near to where I work. I’ve been past that place so many times and never ventured in, so I found your photos fascinating. Of course, then I got completely sucked in to the rest of them. Absolutely love your photos there.

    • Howard 10:54 pm on November 19, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Is that Nuncargate in Kirkby-in-Ashfield?

    • publicenergy 11:09 pm on November 19, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      It is yeah!

    • Howard 11:29 pm on November 19, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      I’m based in Mansfield, and used to catch the bus to Nuncargate before I learned to drive.
      Does this mean I should recognise various other locations in your Flickr gallery?

    • publicenergy 11:36 pm on November 19, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Well, I only have a few photos from the Kirkby area, there are some Mansfield ones, but most of the local ones tend to be around Clumber and Rufford.

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  • Dave 3:59 pm on March 31, 2007 Permalink
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    Tomb of the Unknown Pet Shop Boy 

    Tomb of the Unknown Pet Shop Boy

    This is actually a sundial located just off the the footpath that runs along side the River Trent in Newark, Nottinghamshire, UK.  Due to pop culture it reminded me of a funny hat of the type worn by the Pet Shop Boys in Can You Forgive Her.

    update: I submitted this to JPG Magazine for their ‘Breakthrough’ theme.

     
  • Dave 11:08 pm on March 28, 2007 Permalink
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    Infrared Arboretum 

    Arboretum

    It was nice to get a bit of sunshine on Sunday after quite an overcast day on Saturday. I was in Nottingham and as it was so nice and sunny I went for a bit of a wander around. The photos above and below were taken in the arboretum with the Canon Ixus 55 and the Hoya R72 infrared filter – both of which were sat on top of the DSLR version of the Gorillapod which keeps it very sturdy indeed. I might grow up one day and start using my proper tripod ;)

    Arboretum    Arboretum

     

     
  • Dave 9:37 pm on January 14, 2007 Permalink
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    First infrared shot of 2007 

    . Infrared

    This is my first infrared photo of 2007 – I imagine there will be quite a lot more. I associate my infrared photos with the summertime but really you just need good sunlight. I do suspect the summer ones look better though! It was taken in Sherwood Forest with my little Canon Ixus 55 and a Hoya R72 filter. You can’t normally put filters on to those little cameras but where there’s a will there’s a way!

    The exposure for this shot was 3.2 seconds and to keep the camera still, I was holding the little Gorillapod against a tree. I love that little device – I’ve had more conversations spark up about that than anything else when strangers spot me using it!

     
    • Roger B. 10:31 pm on January 14, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Great shot!

    • Gary 8:44 pm on January 18, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Very nice, I really like the clouds, and the contrast in the foreground. Can’t wait to see more infrared shots. I may have to get one of those filters.

  • Dave 5:40 pm on December 16, 2006 Permalink
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    Infrared and Raw 

    IR RAW Test

    I went for a walk in Clumber Park this morning and took some photos. The thought occurred to me after a few hours that I hadn’t really taken any infrared shots with the Nikon D50 yet – I did do a few test shots to make sure it could actually ‘see’ infrared when I was at Newstead Abbey and that initial experience put me off a bit.

    I was used to taking infrared shots with my little Canon Ixus camera and with the black Hoya R72 filter attached to the front of that, the LCD screen still shows you what you’re going to get. When long exposures are needed, pressing the shutter release half way even gave you a preview of what the long exposure would look like, so when you actually took the shots, you could get pretty close to getting the exposure right.

    With the Nikon though, you have the viewfinder to see what you’re looking at which means with the R72 filter on it, you’re looking at pure black! That isn’t so much of a problem though because you can either frame your shot without the filter or do a few test shots with it in place and move the camera accordingly to get your framing right.

    There is still the question of exposure though. I did get quite used to estimating the correct exposure for infrared with the Ixus depending on the lighting conditions, but the instant feedback helped and made it easy to adjust anyway. Different cameras are sensitive to infrared in different ways so the only thing I can do with the Nikon at the moment is have a guess, do a test shot, then adjust accordingly. That’s fine though because I imagine after a while I’ll get used to estimating better based on the results and conditions.

    Today was a revelation though – I took around 10 infrared shots and some of them looked horribly overexposed – which I noticed at the time and then took a few more with the shutter open for less time. The thing that impressed me though was when I got home and realised that the overexposed shots could have their exposure altered afterwards because I’d used the RAW file format – sliding the exposure slider downwards and seeing the photo turn from an overexposed mess in to something that looked quite presentable was amazing. When I’ve had shots taken on the Ixus that were overexposed like that, there was nothing that could be done with them afterwards – the information in the overexposed blow out areas was discarded at the point the camera saved it as a JPG file.

    So, using infrared today has just bought home to me the power of RAW files – the infrared and the long exposures are just exaggerated versions of what you can do with normal photos the rest of the time.

     
    • Roger B. 10:18 pm on December 16, 2006 Permalink | Reply

      I still haven’t ventured into infra-red territory. I must put it down on my list of new year’s resolutions, together with a trip to Clumber – I haven’t been there for years!

    • publicenergy 10:55 pm on December 16, 2006 Permalink | Reply

      Clumber will be a very easy walk for you – it’s very flat compared to the Peaks ;)

      Infrared is worth a go – especially in summer – sometimes places look totally different – some of my favourite infrared photos have been Peaks ones that just look completely alien – like the one in the middle up there (taken at Back Tor which looks quite strange in the visual spectrum to be fair!)

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